Nick Pope Says Don't Expect Full 'Disclosure' From UFO Congressional Hearing
November 12, 2024 1:00 AM ‐ UFOs
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British UFO expert Nick Pope, a former Ministry of Defence employee, says UFO enthusiasts shouldn't hold their breath for full disclosure in the upcoming congressional hearings on Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAPs).
In an interview with Natasha Zouves from the American news channel NewsNation, Nick spoke about the new hearings, which will take place tomorrow, on November 13.
The hearings follow last year's much-talked-about congressional discussions on UAPs, which saw bipartisan cooperation and brought forth surprising claims about advanced technology sightings and potential national security concerns from former military and intelligence officials.
Nick told viewers what to expect from this round of hearings, "I don't think it's going to be what the UFO community refers to as 'disclosure'. I think disclosure is a process rather than a single event." Rather than expecting a grand revelation, he believes this session "will move the needle forward," offering gradual insights. "We've got four great witnesses, all of whom are going to add value," he continued, explaining that their diverse expertise should complement each other well, pushing the discussion forward without delivering any final conclusions on the subject.
These witnesses are expected to present new information and include retired Navy admiral Tim Gallaudet, a witness Nick thinks will share insights into mysterious underwater anomalies reportedly seen near military submarines.
According to Nick, Gallaudet's testimony could touch on sensitive incidents involving underwater UAPs, particularly around ballistic missile submarines, some of the most secure and secretive vessels in the US fleet. Nick suggested that such incidents "are extremely sensitive" because they could relate to national security, hinting at unexplained objects that may be tracking these nuclear assets. This raises questions about UAPs' potential to monitor or interfere with military capabilities, especially those in underwater environments.
Other potential witnesses include Luis Elizondo, formerly of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP); Michael Gold, a former NASA official; and Michael Shellenberger, who reportedly uncovered a possible secret UAP data collection programme within the Pentagon, codenamed 'Immaculate Constellation'.
While the Pentagon has denied the programme's existence, supporters of transparency believe the hearing could shine a light on any covert research into UAPs.
If this alleged Pentagon initiative exists, it would gather UAP-related data secretly, bypassing congressional oversight and raising legal and ethical questions. In the US, bypassing Congress's role in such matters would breach the principles of oversight - Congress's constitutional right to oversee and regulate government actions, particularly those impacting public funds and national security.
The hearing comes just days after the re-election of President Donald Trump, so the topic of presidential transparency on UFOs naturally came up. Trump has hinted in the past that he "knows things" about UFOs, and Nick sees the potential for increased openness on the issue in Trump's upcoming term.
"Trump has been pressured, of course, to release the rest of the JFK files, which he says he's going to do early in his second term," Pope noted. "Clearly, in President Trump's mind, he links the UFO issue to the JFK issue," perhaps as both are topics that have fuelled public interest and speculation about governmental cover-ups. Nick speculated, "If there is information there, we should look for President Trump to take action fairly early in that second term, and this is why this hearing is going to be very timely and exciting."
Before ending the interview, Natasha asked Nick about the evidence he's seen during his career that has convinced him UAPs may indeed be more than just fiction. Nick pointed to the famous Rendlesham Forest Incident, which took place in Suffolk in December 1980.
"There was a landing, and the radioactivity level at the landing site was significantly higher than the average background level," he explained. According to Nick, government documents confirm that an intelligence assessment identified a form of radiation exposure experienced by military personnel, termed "UAP radiation." This unusual level of radiation and the classified nature of the assessment were, for Pope, strong indicators that UAPs could pose "a serious defence and national security issue."
The upcoming congressional hearing will not deliver a definitive answer, according to Nick Pope, but for those watching closely, it could reveal some of the long-hidden details of UAP encounters.
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